Monday, October 5, 2015

The Man who Killed Liberty Valance...

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) No, sir. This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.
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Certainly this week has again brought home how quickly violence, related mental illness, and carnage collide.  In Oregon, a young man loaded up with guns and bullets, brought horror and death to a small college community.

Not much else needs to be said about this horror, since the media are sucking this massacre to the bone.

This sentence will surely seem unrelated, but has anyone seen “The Man who Shot Liberty Valance”?
 
Do you remember John Wayne in the role of Tom Doniphon and Jimmy Stewart in the role of Ransom Stoddard?  Lee Marvin as Liberty Valance?


Do you recall the conflict of justice through the law and justice through immediate confrontation of evil and good?

This is an excellent movie, filmed in 1962, directed by John Ford.

In an article by Michael Shermer quoting Steven Pinker cites this as: 

“…the (fictional town of) Shinbone embodies any small community in transition from an informal (law code/cowboy code) to a formal moral code and system of justice.  When everyone takes the law into their own hands there is no law…”

Basically, what I want to say is that this tragedy in Oregon (Sandy Hood, Columbine…) is not a gun issueIt is a moral issue. The idea of more gun control laws, and more and more will not be the solution.

The solution is in the enforcement of moral right vs. wrong in the home by the parent(s), and then reinforced in churches and schools. Only then will mental illness, sociopathic behavior, and obsessive devotion to broken ideology  be recognized early and intervention taken. 

If that doesn’t happen, guns can be sucked up by a big vacuum and yet nothing will change. 

Absolutely nothing.

Question:  If I were trained is in firearms, had a gun, and was confronted by such a person, would I shoot to kill.  Yes. 

23 comments:

  1. Parents being lazy, using electronics as a babysitter is a big part of it. All the PC nonsense, can't correct kids, have to coddle them, everyone wins, etc. doesn't help much either.

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    1. Living in this PC world where no one's feelings can be hurt, is a match to light a fire.

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  2. Touche!!!!

    If there are no guns the crazies will still find cars, explosives and a million other ways to spread havoc and death.

    May God help us all.

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  3. I remember this movie well. It's one of those movies hubby and I will watch when it happens to show up on a channel. The Oxbow Incident is another one.

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    1. The Oxbow Incident was a meaningful insightful movie.

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  4. Yes, well said! It's a moral issue. If morals weren't in the toilet, this would be a better world.

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    1. I wonder what it will take for all to see this? Till the coming of Christ?

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  5. Susan, I agree completely, and have had this brought home to me time and time again in working with my granddaughters, who arrived with no moral core. It was until the beginning of this summer before my oldest granddaughter worked it out and is a sterling young woman. The little one hasn't had her epiphany, yet, but it will happen. I wonder how they will hold steady in the world they have inherited.

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    1. Good question. We can only pray and keep them attached to the line you have attached to them.

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  6. From this side of the world I wonder.
    We face very similar moral issues, but do have gun controls. People are still murdered, but almost always in smaller numbers. And random killings seem to be rare...
    No arguments about the need to develop a stronger moral backbone though.

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    1. As I see it, less and less people believe in God, are active in their children's lives, and instill those values from the very beginning. It is almost too late at age 15.

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  7. And instead of the impossible, because you can't legislate parenting - are laws to tighten access to guns!
    I saw the movie, and just recently, Jimmy Stewart took credit for shooting a man he didn't shoot,, it helped get him elected where he did good - he wrote laws protecting the innocent. Good movie!

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  8. An excellent movie, sometimes confusing. I was rooting for John Wayne to marry Vera Miles.

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  9. I know I've seen that movie, but I must have been very young as I can't remember it at all. Now I'm going to have to track down the DVD and watch it. I remember the song though, it got quite a lot of air play on our radios way back when.

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    1. I don't remember the song very well at all.

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  10. It's a cultural problem. Well, among other things.

    I've never seen this movie. I've heard of it; just never got around to seeing it.

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  11. Quite true that children raised to bad ideas will be troubled. Kindness and tolerance are such simple, powerful concepts. I have never understood how they are displaced by irrational brutality but believe your idea about early recognition and intervention would do much to correct the problem.

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    1. There are no simple ideas at all. Addressing this violence would take multi-approaches.

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  12. When food, water and resources run out - (shrimp, fish are disappearing, lakes like the Aral are drying up) bees are in decline - heaven help us so what can the power of the pen do about this?

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    1. Write, shout as you write, talk to others. It is frightening how ignorant our society has become about all issues that will destroy us.

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Go ahead...it won' t hurt...I'd love to hear what you think!